Thursday, June 5, 2025

The on-going "war" between Trump and Musk is far more interesting than it seems!

    Most people will look at the on-going war of words between Donald Trump and Elon Musk and will "enjoy" the clash of outsized personalities, and there is certainly some of that here. But as in the Matrix Movie, there is a deeper layer and far more interesting clash of policies behind which we should pay more attention to.

   Thanks to the recent posts, we now know that Elon Musk WAS fired for requesting changes in government policies that went far beyond what he was appointed to do. But who could blame him? He saw the financial mess the country was in and his task was indeed to fix the loose ends and so he did, understanding quickly that the problem was systemic, not about saving a billion dollars here and there. And so he made sensible proposals... which were all shot down on political grounds. But how over-optimistic was that? Did he really think that the system would accept to reform itself over the dead bodies of the people who benefited most and had to vote for the reforms? This was of course never going to happen! 

  But in doing so, Elon Musk did expose the inner working of the American political system and to say that it stinks to high heaven would be an understatement. Trump is most certainly a sworn enemy of the deep state, but it doesn't make him clean, far from it. Like most American politicians, Donald Trump is bought by the Israel lobby and compromised by the Epstein-Mossad entrapment mechanism, if we dare to call this for what it really is. (Epstein being probably just a minor part of the whole system.)

  This understanding most certainly goes a long way in explaining the extremist positions of the current US administration on Israel, the war in Gaza, Iran, Syria and basically the whole Middle east American policy. Although, Trump does try here and there to push back from the brink of the eschatological "armageddon" vision of the Zionists, mostly he has no choice and must compromise on the most fundamental principles which to say the least are not exactly in line with America first. And what exactly is the role of Peter Thiel in all this?

  Bottom line, beyond the short term entertainment, we are seeing a glimpse of the inner working of the machinery. It is as expected dirty and greasy. But it is also, as expected out of control. No Trump MAGA was ever going to put it back on tracks, but what fools would have ever thought so?  

  And this is unfortunately the recurring theme of this blog. The Greeks were right all along: Our lives are either a comedy of a tragedy (that decision remains up to us) but at the level of our societies, the dynamics are more or less fixed and our fate is indeed out of our hands which we have known for 2500 years. Only recently did we believe for a short while that technology would change the outcome of this basic human reality.

Musk 'Yes' On Trump Impeachment; Will 'Immediately' Decommission SpaceX Dragon & Doubles Down On Epstein Claims

Update (1725ET): As the Trump-Musk feud continues to escalate, Musk endorsed the notion that 'Trump should be impeached and JD Vance should replace him,' floated by Malaysian US political commentator Ian Miles Cheong.

Earlier...

Aaaand Musk just announced he'll begin decommissioning the SpaceX Dragon spacecraft 'immediately'

He also doubled down on the Epstein claim...

While Trump defenders such as Laura Loomer pushed back:

Trump, meanwhile, posted what could be considered somewhat of an attempt to de-escalate - that he 'doesn't mind Elon turning against me, but he should have done so months ago," adding "This is one of the Greatest Bills ever presented to Congress. It's a Record Cut in Expenses, $1.6 Trillion Dollars, and the Biggest Tax Cut ever given."

Update (1615ET): Just as the spat between Elon Musk and President Trump seemed to have reached cruising altitude, Musk hit the afterburners - claiming on X that President Trump is "in the Epstein files," adding "That is the real reason they have not been made public...

Meanwhile, shares in TSLA are down 16% as the market cascades lower. Fun fact, Tesla was the most bought retail stock over the last week. 

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Update (1255ET): The tech-bro industrial complex has to be shitting themselves as the Trump-Musk spat just hit a new gear; Elon Musk is calling for a new political party, while Trump just threatened to pull Musk's contracts. 

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In a Thursday afternoon post to Truth Social, Trump said that Elon was "wearing thin," and that he "Asked him to leave." 

"I took away his EV Mandate that forced everyone to buy Electric Cars that nobody else wanted (that he knew for months I was going to do!), and he just went CRAZY!"

Trump then 'truthed' that "The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn’t do it!"

"Such an obvious lie. So sad." Musk replied...

Before calling Trump's bluff...

And is calling for a new political party...

Which has an 84% 'yes' rating...

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Update (1255ET): Well that escalated quickly...

Elon Musk is now raging on X against President Trump, after Trump talked greasy to the press over Musk's opposition to the "Big Beautiful Bill" over the past several days. 

"Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate," Musk wrote, adding "Such ingratitude." 

Meanwhile Tesla stock is down 9%...

And Palantir is down 5% as the tech bro darlings come under pressure... 

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President Trump has weighed in after Elon Musk began publicly bashing the GOP's 'Big Beautiful Bill,' telling reporters on Thursday that he's 'very disappointed in Elon,' and that Musk only opposes the bill because they eliminated electric vehicle tax credits from it. 

"Elon is upset because we took the EV mandate which was a lot of money for electric vehicles. They're having a hard time the electric vehicles, and they want us to pay billions of dollars in subsidy. Elon knew this from the beginning," said Trump. 

Trump also suggested that Musk "recommended somebody he knew very well to run NASA. I didn't think it was appropriate, and he happened to be a Democrat, like totally Democrat."

Musk, meanwhile responded with "Whatever" to Trump...

"Keep the EV/solar incentive cuts in the bill, even though no oil & gas subsidies are touched (very unfair!!), but ditch the MOUNTAIN of DISGUSTING PORK in the bill," Musk wrote. "In the entire history of civilization, there has never been legislation that both big and beautiful. Everyone knows this!"

"Either you get a big and ugly bill or a slim and beautiful bill. Slim and beautiful is the way." 

And then there's this...

He then addressed Trump's specific comments regarding the bill, posting "False, this bill was never shown to me even once and was passed in the dead of night so fast that almost no one in Congress could even read it!"

Prior to Trump's comments, Musk spent much of the morning re-posting old Trump tweets calling for no ficits and to stop raising the debt ceiling. 

Over the past several days Musk has dug in over the issue - posting to X on Tuesday, "I’m sorry, but I just can’t stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous, pork-filled Congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination."

This sent the White House scrambling to do damage control - with Budget Director Russ Vought sending Congress a request for a $9.4 billion clawback for unspent foreign aid funding - which if you're Musk, after what DOGE has uncovered, is a huge slap in the face.

On Wednesday, Musk continued to rage on X - posting: "Call your Senator, Call your Congressman, Bankrupting America is NOT ok! Kill the Bill." - followed by a 'Kill Bill' movie poster featuring Uma Thurman. 

Musk's solution? A new spending bill that doesn't jack the debt ceiling by $5 trillion dollars while "massively" growing the deficit. 

House Speaker Mike Johnson also spoke out against Musk, saying "I think Elon is flat wrong." 

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